http://www.progressiveturmoil.com/2009/11/03/my-acc-submission/ it's all around us Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:21:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 http://www.progressiveturmoil.com/2009/11/03/my-acc-submission/comment-page-1/#comment-372 Thornton Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:21:30 +0000 http://www.progressiveturmoil.com/?p=452#comment-372 The comment from Peter S seems to indicate he (and apparently it's the same for ACC) doesn't get that ACC is meant to be a no fault scheme where everyone chips in a bit to pay for cover for all, not one where some pay more than others just because they choose to take a higher risk. If (as National are clearly angling towards) NZ had private insurance then yes motorcyclists would no doubt pay exorbitant fees, but that is not how ACC works, or at least is not how it's meant to work. If Peter S feels that motorcyclists should pay a higher levy does he also think that older people should pay more as they are more likely to fall and injure themselves and the costs to rehabilitate them would be much higher than compared with a young person? What about rugby players, or cyclists, etc, etc. Cyclists have nearly as many accidents with nearly as many serious injuries and fatalities as motorcyclists, yet they pay no extra ACC levy at all. I recommend Peter S goes to www.bikersagainstacc.org.nz or www.ACCworks.org.nz (try to forget political leanings and just read the facts page). The comment from Peter S seems to indicate he (and apparently it’s the same for ACC) doesn’t get that ACC is meant to be a no fault scheme where everyone chips in a bit to pay for cover for all, not one where some pay more than others just because they choose to take a higher risk.
If (as National are clearly angling towards) NZ had private insurance then yes motorcyclists would no doubt pay exorbitant fees, but that is not how ACC works, or at least is not how it’s meant to work.
If Peter S feels that motorcyclists should pay a higher levy does he also think that older people should pay more as they are more likely to fall and injure themselves and the costs to rehabilitate them would be much higher than compared with a young person? What about rugby players, or cyclists, etc, etc. Cyclists have nearly as many accidents with nearly as many serious injuries and fatalities as motorcyclists, yet they pay no extra ACC levy at all.
I recommend Peter S goes to http://www.bikersagainstacc.org.nz or http://www.ACCworks.org.nz (try to forget political leanings and just read the facts page).

]]> http://www.progressiveturmoil.com/2009/11/03/my-acc-submission/comment-page-1/#comment-369 Peter S Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:58:14 +0000 http://www.progressiveturmoil.com/?p=452#comment-369 In respect of the increase to motorcycle levies I would make the following comments. I drive frequently on the open road. On every trip I am overtaken by high powered motorcyles travelling in excess of the speed limit. As often as not the riders are weaving in and out of traffic and overtaking in tight circumstances. The point I would make is that motorcyclists are indulging in an adrenalin sport - lets face it they could buy a lower powered, safer car and drive it at less cost. In the pursuit of their sport they are putting themselves at high risk by, (1) driving at the edge of safe limits, and (2) using a vehicle that has no protection and is unlikely to be able to be stopped safely when the rider is confronted with an dangerous obstacle. I would equate the risk with rock climbing without a rope. Add to this the fact that injured motorcyclist are very, very, expensive to repair. That is why they should pay a higher ACC levy. In respect of the increase to motorcycle levies I would make the following comments. I drive frequently on the open road. On every trip I am overtaken by high powered motorcyles travelling in excess of the speed limit. As often as not the riders are weaving in and out of traffic and overtaking in tight circumstances. The point I would make is that motorcyclists are indulging in an adrenalin sport – lets face it they could buy a lower powered, safer car and drive it at less cost. In the pursuit of their sport they are putting themselves at high risk by, (1) driving at the edge of safe limits, and (2) using a vehicle that has no protection and is unlikely to be able to be stopped safely when the rider is confronted with an dangerous obstacle. I would equate the risk with rock climbing without a rope. Add to this the fact that injured motorcyclist are very, very, expensive to repair. That is why they should pay a higher ACC levy.

]]> http://www.progressiveturmoil.com/2009/11/03/my-acc-submission/comment-page-1/#comment-368 Blog Bits | Kiwiblog Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:21:37 +0000 http://www.progressiveturmoil.com/?p=452#comment-368 [...] Small blogs his ACC submission. He has many questions about the motorcyclist proposed [...] [...] Small blogs his ACC submission. He has many questions about the motorcyclist proposed [...]

]]> http://www.progressiveturmoil.com/2009/11/03/my-acc-submission/comment-page-1/#comment-343 James Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:09:37 +0000 http://www.progressiveturmoil.com/?p=452#comment-343 I'm really enjoying your coverage of this issue. Did you send this letter to ACC or have it published anywhere? I hope this gets picked up on by some of the higher-ups. I’m really enjoying your coverage of this issue. Did you send this letter to ACC or have it published anywhere? I hope this gets picked up on by some of the higher-ups.

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